tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196334975274806517.post5078133939805572061..comments2024-03-27T02:37:18.872-06:00Comments on Cooling Inflammation: Cure for Middle-Aged MiddleDr. Art Ayershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01727664149735013259noreply@blogger.comBlogger71125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196334975274806517.post-84736685100550998592022-03-29T00:38:54.461-06:002022-03-29T00:38:54.461-06:00While we usually get our vitamins, minerals and ot...While we usually get our vitamins, minerals and other essential elements through everyday food consumption, it is not always possible to achieve a balanced diet and obtain sufficient nutrients for good health due to lifestyle, lack of time, dieting, illness, bad eating habits and poor choice of food. Vitamins and supplements are the best choice to complete your body daily need of essential elements.Neato Nutritionhttps://www.neatonutrition.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196334975274806517.post-69339391228700310852017-10-10T06:11:34.258-06:002017-10-10T06:11:34.258-06:00Buy here supperb india`s suppliments. online prote...Buy here supperb india`s suppliments. <a href="https://www.curlindia.com/product-category/sports-fitness/whey-protein-sports-fitness-in-india-at-curlindia.html" rel="nofollow">online protein supplements india</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17699023697779559454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196334975274806517.post-64140650692951026832015-12-16T05:37:24.351-07:002015-12-16T05:37:24.351-07:00Dear Dr. Ayers,
I would like to inquire once more...Dear Dr. Ayers,<br /><br />I would like to inquire once more on the topic of Whey Protein Powders, if you could find the time for a few lines.<br /><br />Since I gathered from your blog that you also regularly strength train or used to strength train and given your background you are of course quite aware of the role protein plays for strength development and hypertrophy (the latter not being the priority here at all, but still welcome to some degree). <br /><br />Since in the real world we often have to compromise, what would be the better option (in your opinion) to maximize athletic performance (in the long run, where a somewhat compromised immune system might impede training progress e.g. due to impaired recovery): <br /><br />a) No Protein Supplements, only whole foods chosen to maximize health of the gut flora, but potentially leading to less than optimal protein intake due to time/money restraints <br /><br />b) Daily intake of Whey Protein (Isolate) in order to meet increased protein demands, that would to some degree impair the diversity/health of the gut flora – even though it adapts to a point where no gastro-intestinal issues can be noted? <br /><br />Question comes from a healthy individual with no auto-immune problems and good tolerance to WPI judging from skin/stool/digestion.<br /><br />Thank you for your help,<br />AnniAnninoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196334975274806517.post-958295235677971522015-09-05T13:27:27.212-06:002015-09-05T13:27:27.212-06:00Newbie,
Feel free to persist and get your question...Newbie,<br />Feel free to persist and get your questions answered.<br /><br />I don't often supply references, because most of my conceptualizations result from combining conclusions from dozens of research papers over many years. I also do my own protein database and computational modeling, so it is sometimes difficult to both cut to the chase and provide actionable bottom lines as well as documenting my research path. In most cases, all I can end up doing is providing my logic. If my reasoning is persuasive, then people can try to figure out how it will work for them.<br /><br />Just to get to some main points. I consider supplements to be temporary and would normally use eggs or meat with their fat, instead of whey protein for everyday eating. If I were eating whey for its gut flora destabilization, I wouldn't sweat the small stuff, e.g. artificial sweeteners or colors, since they are insignificant on a temporary basis. Most of the particulars of diet are unimportant as long as one is eating whole foods that supply enough protein, fat and minerals, plus prebiotic fiber for gut bacteria. That said, most people have health problems because their gut bacteria are not adapted to their diet, and not because their is a problem with their diet. Modern cultures lack functional ways to introduce a wide range of bacterial species to supplement damaged gut microbiota. The best they can do is provide dairy probiotics and fermentation bacteria that can act as surrogates to aid immune system development. But those lactobacilli tend to be transients in the gut. Autoimmune disease,allergies, constipation, food intolerances, obesity, inflammatory bowel diseases, all indicate that dozens of bacteria species are missing and can't be replaced by commercial probiotics with just a couple of useful species.Dr. Art Ayershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01727664149735013259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196334975274806517.post-87215073697476060992015-09-05T12:04:56.924-06:002015-09-05T12:04:56.924-06:00Thank you for your answer Dr. Ayers.
Please allow ...Thank you for your answer Dr. Ayers.<br />Please allow me to impose on you again on this same topic. <br />Whey isolate protein powder has become a staple in my diet - mixed with my oat groats and bran. I only eat one other full meal in the day - with a good portion of protein, but on it's own, it wouldn't be enough to sustain my needs. I can't add a meat protein source to my huge oatmeal breakfast, so the powder is very convenient.<br />Can you supply any links to articles showing how whey protein powder modifies or adversely affects the human microbiota?<br />I would then be in a better position to decide about the whey protein on an ongoing basis for myself.<br /><br />I thank in advance for indulging my persistent questions.Newbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10011973668875349690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196334975274806517.post-79262375405032947282015-08-30T12:22:34.749-06:002015-08-30T12:22:34.749-06:00Newbie,
I see milk and whey as feeding dairy probi...Newbie,<br />I see milk and whey as feeding dairy probiotics (lactobacilli) and inhibiting the growth of everything else, i.e. adult gut microbiota. In the context of the Drs. Eades quick weight loss diet, I see the use of whey shakes as being different from other protein shakes. Protein shakes and whey shakes both lack prebiotic fiber to feed gut microbiota, but whey shakes also have proteins that are partially digested to produce antimicrobial peptides and other factors that disrupt adult gut flora. I think that the whey shakes work temporarily, because they destabilize the gut microbiota that are providing part of the metabolic set point that helps the body to resist weight change from excess or insufficient dietary calories.<br /><br />I consider liquid milk to just have a more mild impact on gut microbiota than whey shakes. Milk products like plant products have natural antibiotics, e.g. lactoferricin or essential oils, that alter the composition of gut bacterial and fungal communities. Your gut adapts and its no big deal in most cases. It is easy to overcome lactose intolerance, for example, just by eating live yogurt.<br /><br />I don't see the point of fiddling with whey powder instead of whole foods. Milk products are adapted for support of dairy (newborn) probiotics. They are not natural foods for adults, but if you enjoy them, then your gut will adapt.<br /><br />Thanks for your comments/questions.Dr. Art Ayershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01727664149735013259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196334975274806517.post-674514801533938872015-08-30T11:46:33.361-06:002015-08-30T11:46:33.361-06:00Hi Dr. Ayers,
It has been 5 years since you wrote ...Hi Dr. Ayers,<br />It has been 5 years since you wrote this post, but since you (and Tim Steele) are my "go-to" guys on microbiota, I'm leaving this question in 2015! Maybe your views have changed, I'd certainly want to know.<br />I don't want to take any of your comments out of context, so can you please weigh in on a discussion point on whey protein powder. My interpretation of your post - http://coolinginflammation.blogspot.ca/2014/01/milk-kefir-and-gut-flora.html. “Thus, human milk is good for babies, but bad for adult gut flora because most of the protein, fat and carbs are digested and no soluble fiber remains for colon gut flora.”<br />But, if the whey protein is present in the gut at the same time that significant fermentable fiber is also present , I am not clear at all that the presence of the whey protein would have a negative impact. <br /><br />This particular discussion continued, and this point was made - Dr. Art Ayers had this to say about whey shakes:<br />"Whey shakes, by the way, can disrupt the gut flora ..."<br /><br />But from http://coolinginflammation.blogspot.ca/2009/05/lactoferrin-natural-anti-microbial-milk.html …”Lactoferrin is prebiotic and supports the growth of probiotic gut flora.”<br /><br />So, now I get to my issue...<br />Do you view whey protein powder as different from liquid milk, in that, if the whey protein powder is mixed with a goodly portion of MAC, does said protein powder thereby have a positive impact on the microbiota?<br />I add a scoop of whey protein powder to a cup of cooked oat groats (and raw oat bran) with banana/pear/blueberries - to ensure that fermentables are present with the whey - is the whey good for your microbiota in that setting?Newbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10011973668875349690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196334975274806517.post-14749992474425826102014-08-18T22:44:26.105-06:002014-08-18T22:44:26.105-06:00Hi Dr.
I know Why Shakes will help you lose weigh...Hi Dr.<br /><br />I know Why Shakes will help you lose weight, but how do protein supplements affect inflammation - taking into account hormones, pesticide residue, and additives such as coloring and maltodextrin?Tom Bradynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196334975274806517.post-29206525119038176772014-05-28T02:45:03.320-06:002014-05-28T02:45:03.320-06:00Dear Dr. Ayers,
Sorry, never mind. lactoferrin is ...Dear Dr. Ayers,<br />Sorry, never mind. lactoferrin is a protein I see, so of course it will be deactivated at some temperature. i'll just stick to shakes and other cold treats. <br /><br />I will try the whey again as it had such good results last time, and will let you know how it goes. <br /><br />I completely agree that anti microbial substances should be avoided normally. But given that the antibiotics/tetracyclines I took for 10 years would get rid of the rash every time and that the whey did the same thing possibly, I'm thinking: Whey once more to hopefully decrease some of the m.o. responsible, then focus on growing a diverse and heathy gut flora that will hopefully grow to quiet the less beneficial one..<br /><br />This summer I will be sure to stuff myself with fermented veggies, organic herbs, leafy salads, abundance of green vegetables (in a regular manner), lots of onions, pectin(citrus peal stevia marmalade) together with the anti-inflammatory supplements, and kiss healthy looking individuals. & never again wheat, sugar and starch (except for a little resistant starch maybe). <br /><br />Best regards,<br />A-KAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196334975274806517.post-66707533379356091602014-05-26T02:15:33.874-06:002014-05-26T02:15:33.874-06:00Dear Dr. Ayers, thank you for your response!
I di...Dear Dr. Ayers, thank you for your response!<br /><br />I did the Eades 6 week cure last year. My objective was to get rid of skin rash on my chin (perioral dermititis - related to rosacea). <br />I have been low carb for 6 years and the rash has improved but would still be present. It gets aggravated by inflammation and I thought it could be caused by a combination with a unbalanced gut flora and also possibly "bad bacteria" (endo toxins/die off?). <br /><br />While I was eating the Whey it just kept getting worse and then 7 days after I stopped the whey it completely disappeared. I don't believe this to be a coincidence as I had had it for over a year at that point. I continued with following my regular low carb high fat diet and noticed also my head aches and restless legs had disappeared with the rash. I have previously tried super strict low carb (10g carb per day) and this would only aggravate the rash (while 30g carb/tomato, mushrooms etc would calm it but never rid it completely). <br />Two months ago during a trip to italy, I had pasta and cakes in abundance for 5 days.. but nothing happened except for that I could not go running for 30 days due to join pains. Then 1 month ago I had lots of ice cream one night and the rash returned together with my headaches. I'm thinking my italy trip fed the wrong population..?? Now the rash is growing worse and I started on whey yesterday. <br />I can't shake the idea that the rash is partly from some "bad bugs"... Do you think it is unlikely? Would the Whey be worth a try? - I'll let you know how it works out. <br /><br />Can one heat whey/lactoferrin without it loosing its properties? -I use it in my coconut egg porridge - love it.<br /> <br />(Background: Growing up I lived on milk and bread and then ate loads with antibiotics/tetracyclines for 10 years for perioral dermatitis with massive gut problems and yeast infections as a result. The LCHF diet has really helped, now I am no longer bloated and stomach pains, I don't get sick almost ever but have constipation. I eat a lot of soluble fiber, abundance of vitamin C, D, omega3, no carbs except for green veggies onions, organic fresh herbs, fermented veggies and I'm slowly improving). <br /><br />Thank you for sharing your great work.<br />Best regards,<br />A-KAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196334975274806517.post-44413784642316967062014-03-11T11:57:42.097-06:002014-03-11T11:57:42.097-06:00A-K,
My view is that once you have a fully functio...A-K,<br />My view is that once you have a fully functional gut flora that is matched to your healthy diet, you need no supplements, such as vitamins, probiotics, etc. Destabilizing your gut flora with whey powder would then make no sense, unless you were trying to change your weight.<br />In most cases, I don't think that one should worry about bad bacteria. The focus should be on introducing good bacteria and feeding them soluble fiber.<br /><br />Antimicrobial is generally unhealthy. Both raw milk and raw eggs (as well as plants) contain powerful antimicrobial proteins (polyphenols) etc., but your gut flora will adjust to them.Dr. Art Ayershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01727664149735013259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196334975274806517.post-61205634380001214972014-03-11T04:02:48.588-06:002014-03-11T04:02:48.588-06:00Dear Dr. Ayers, I have been reading your blog for ...Dear Dr. Ayers, I have been reading your blog for over a year now and had truly great help from this. One question that I cant find the answer too thought. <br />1. The use of whey to control bacterial pathogens etc. and disrupting biofilms slightly to be able to shift gut flora to a healthier one in combination with a low carb veggie and meat diet - is this appropriate to use only for a limited amount of time as the Eades cure advice or can one keep using whey safely? I initially got the impression that whey would have anti microbial properties and this is not desired for longer periods. <br />2. Can the whey protein powder be heated without loosing its "anti-microbial" properties? (I use it in some recipes where heating is involved. Raw egg white is also anti microbial right? And this loose its properties when cooked.. <br />Would much appreciate your thoughts on this. <br />Best regards,<br />A-KAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196334975274806517.post-38634879002503251412012-11-02T01:21:57.189-06:002012-11-02T01:21:57.189-06:00Hello Terry,
yes, it's quite an interesting b...Hello Terry,<br /><br />yes, it's quite an interesting book...although actually changing ones diet is always much harder than reading about it! I believe she has a new book coming out shortly where she details how to best implement her dietary recommendations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196334975274806517.post-79890762114069636202012-10-31T13:59:43.567-06:002012-10-31T13:59:43.567-06:00I would just like to say "Thankyou so much fo...I would just like to say "Thankyou so much for recommending the book Deep Nutrition". Absolutely brilliant and should be required reading for everyone!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14326247702138143393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196334975274806517.post-78457541359166883612012-10-19T07:48:34.455-06:002012-10-19T07:48:34.455-06:00Thanks, I have bought the book and looking forward...Thanks, I have bought the book and looking forward to reading :-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14326247702138143393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196334975274806517.post-70883178875178429912012-10-18T00:45:43.144-06:002012-10-18T00:45:43.144-06:00Hello Terry,
You might want to get hold of a copy...Hello Terry,<br /><br />You might want to get hold of a copy of "Deep Nutrition" by Catherine Shanahan. She describes the fat your talking about as ormental fat...that is fat not between the muscle fascia and your skin but surrounding the inner organs. She recommends a diet protocol similar to Dr Ayers. Its a good read if you're interested in nutrition and how to go about improving health and weight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196334975274806517.post-49890083709319739572012-10-17T09:06:15.074-06:002012-10-17T09:06:15.074-06:00Not sure if anyone is still monitoring this partic...Not sure if anyone is still monitoring this particular Blog.<br />I recently bought a copy of 'Lose you Middle Age Middle in 6 weeks' and set out to follow this plan as it seems to make so much sense. On week 1 I lost almost 9lbs, week 2 only 2 lbs, week 3 Nada, week 4 gained 1lb.<br />I noticed that although I didn't get the usual afternoon Brick Wall Tiredness, I did feel quite lethargic (to be expected I guess), however, my main concern is that I am now 1/2 way through week 4, and although my weight has dropped, by Stomach still looks like I swallowed a beach ball!! I have followed this very strictly and have stayed away from any refined Carbs (the only carbs are the Vegies allowed). No coffee, No Costa (my favourite coffee shop who are no doubt sorely missing me and may go broke ;-) )<br />This does not seem to have done anything to remove that Distended Stomach look.<br />Am I missing something or just too impatient to think that something that has been building for almost 50 years will go in 4 weeks??Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14326247702138143393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196334975274806517.post-74166646654134780782012-04-25T08:54:09.211-06:002012-04-25T08:54:09.211-06:00I was the one who just posted about my experiences...I was the one who just posted about my experiences with the first two weeks of "The 6 Week Cure". I forgot to mention that, while I didn't feel great, and some old inflammation has been unearthed somehow, my skin was absolutely radiant (better than EVER). I normally suffer a few breakouts here and there, and in my younger years had terrible cystic acne, but I had absolutely NO blemishes at all. I am definitely skinnier around the middle and have lost about 3 pounds (not much, but it is noticeable...to me anyway).<br /><br />Could the increase in inflammation be some sort of "healing reaction?" originating in a change in my gut flora or is the whole "herx, healing reaction" thing a myth?Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15023858336293019185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196334975274806517.post-32840227959891619062012-04-25T07:10:03.344-06:002012-04-25T07:10:03.344-06:00I just completed the first two weeks of the 6 week...I just completed the first two weeks of the 6 week cure. It was not terrible, but not a cake walk either. I suffered a great deal of fatigue and kind of a weird feeling in my gut. No headaches, but just no energy at all, and I didn't feel well generally. I did lose some belly fat (didn't have a ton, but enough to bother me) and feel leaner, but a lot of old "-itis" problems have flared up now, towards the end of the two shake weeks. I'm having a lot more joint pain, and an old tendonitis I had previously in my foot is back. I did forget my fish oil many days (though I wasn't too faithful before that either), and I ran out of vitamin D halfway through, but did absorb a great deal of sunlight to compensate.<br /><br />So I'm curious why I actually feel more inflamed. It is puzzling. Maybe it was too much dairy for me. I am on the meat weeks now, so no dairy at all, and I am back on my fish oil (probably take some cod liver oil for D), so I hope this all calms down before my varicose vein surgery at the end of next week.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196334975274806517.post-91078642850150090192011-11-09T14:22:25.068-07:002011-11-09T14:22:25.068-07:00Don't know if you've seen this EXCELLENT v...Don't know if you've seen this EXCELLENT video: Dr. Listig explaining insulin, leptin and obesity:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8dWNbEscOw&feature=player_embeddedAnek Dodlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14711293797065642177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196334975274806517.post-52757101934671345602011-05-08T10:34:38.497-06:002011-05-08T10:34:38.497-06:00Thank you for blogging this diet. I have been diag...Thank you for blogging this diet. I have been diagnosed with Behcet's disease, and I am looking forward to doing the diet as closely as possible to see if it will put my symptoms into remission. The components of this diet seem VERY closely related to the problems I have, and I am praying it will make a huge difference in my life. THANK YOU AGAIN DR. AYERS <br />applewench71@yahoo.comnashleyhttp://www.facebook.com/neita.ashleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196334975274806517.post-51378489221964648072010-08-27T17:10:01.985-06:002010-08-27T17:10:01.985-06:00Dr. Ayers,
In my study of surface tension in liqu...Dr. Ayers,<br /><br />In my study of surface tension in liquids, there is talk of the behaviour of individual atoms or molecules being in a lower state of energy when a greater number of neighbours surrounds the central atom/molecule. Contrast this with molecules on the surface, where the atom/molecules have fewer neighbours and a higher energy. It is explained that this higher energy is a reason for surface tension, in that atoms/molecules have a tendency towards the bulk/interior, where there is lower energy. The fluid minimizes its energy state by minimizing the number of atoms in the high energy state. <br /> <br />What is the nature of an atom/molecule having a lower state of energy with more neighbours? What causes this? How does this relate to entropy and spontaneity and surface tension? My question is primarily for liquids other than water.<br /><br />Does this hold for all liquids, including water? If not, how does water differ from this behaviour?<br /> <br />Cheers,<br /><br />PaulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196334975274806517.post-6071878265082163382010-08-21T00:29:32.553-06:002010-08-21T00:29:32.553-06:00Tanya,
My experience with applied immunology tells...Tanya,<br />My experience with applied immunology tells me that the first response to an antigen is with IgM and that slowly converts to IgG. I don't know what the accepted limits for diagnosis are for Lyme.Dr. Art Ayershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01727664149735013259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196334975274806517.post-88219743854443386282010-08-20T18:37:54.434-06:002010-08-20T18:37:54.434-06:00I have looked into the fungus issue prior to looki...I have looked into the fungus issue prior to looking into anti inflammatory diet etc. The recommendations are the same, so the low carb diet should help with the yeast as well. I did find a site that discusses probiotics (specific ones) and other things to control it. www.candidafree.net They also discuss how yeast can interfere with hormones etc. knowthecause.com recommends supplements that you and the other site do not. So sorting that out.<br /><br />The dizziness started with the stroke, and then eventually has subsided except for right around my period. I guess I don't know if things are new symptoms of same problem or diff. problems. <br /><br />I also recall one of the first posts I read that you said your friend fought his inflammation with diet but it took physical therapy to finally kick it. I know the one thing I don't do that most recommend is excercise, and I need to start slow and get stronger.<br /><br />I had thought about connections between his symptoms and mine as well, as I read somewhere the speculation that Lyme can be transferred to your spouse by intimate contact. So yeast would be in the same arena as that theory.<br /><br />My TSH was .79 (last time was 1.72) and free t4 was 1.5. high range normal is 1.7 for t4 and low range normal tsh is .27. The weird thing is, the lyme test was for two antibodies and the IGG was <80 and the IGM was 1.89. Based on the info on the results, the igg is neg and the igm is positive. So now I am really confused. Need to look into it more.Tanyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-196334975274806517.post-52270037406182318762010-08-19T23:46:39.740-06:002010-08-19T23:46:39.740-06:00Tanya,
I think that Anna is right in getting the a...Tanya,<br />I think that Anna is right in getting the actual test results. I am not much use when it comes to hormone dysfunction, because I have to get to the root cause for the metabolic disruption that ultimately leads to the hormone problem. The hormones are never the first step, but are another symptom of underlying disease. In some cases it is difficult to ferret out the initial causes, because they may have been remedied, but still leave a residual problem. An example is autoimmune disease based on preceding inflammation and gut-based disruption of Tregs.<br /><br />I think that it is informative that you took a nose dive after starting the new diet. That diet disrupted your existing gut flora and triggered your symptoms. Your husband also has gut flora issues, so a major source of gut bacteria for you would be from a compromised source. In any case, both of you have suffered from related diets. I consider your response to the whey shakes to be paradoxical and consistent with intestinal yeast. This makes sense with your prior antibiotics. Your husband's response to the diet is also paradoxical and consistent with yeast. Yeast also likes oatmeal, i.e. lots of starch and causes problems on low carb.<br /><br />What do you think?Dr. Art Ayershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01727664149735013259noreply@blogger.com